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The Science of Leadership is the podcast for listeners who want to build their leadership capabilities, providing valuable knowledge, insightful perspectives, and inspiring stories from expert leaders across various fields. The episodes range from one-on-one interviews with experts to discussions between the host and co-host. All episodes are supported by the latest scientific research in leadership, psychology, and other pertinent fields. Whether you’re an aspiring business leader, a healthcare professional, a community leader, or someone passionate about personal growth, our podcast is designed to equip you with the skills and wisdom needed to lead with confidence and impact. Join us on this journey to become a better leader and make a difference in your world!
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Tuesday Mar 25, 2025
Tuesday Mar 25, 2025
In this episode of @TheScienceofLeadership , host Tom Collins is joined by U.S. Navy Admiral (ret.) Scott Swift, who shares his expertise on the pivotal role of calculated risk in leadership, drawing from his vast naval experience, including serving as the Commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet.
With a career handling high-stakes situations, Admiral Swift discusses the significance of embracing uncertainty as a resource, which is crucial for innovation and progress within any organization. This episode dives into the dynamics of risk as it relates to organizational learning and success, providing listeners with practical insights on how to reevaluate their approach to risk in leadership.
Admiral Swift elucidates that successful organizations often conceive risk as an integral part of their culture rather than a liability, a mindset particularly evident in startups. Throughout the conversation, he shares valuable lessons from his illustrious career, illustrating how calculated risk-taking can yield significant benefits. Tom and Admiral Swift also discuss the often-overlooked correlation between risk and learning, underscoring the necessity for leaders to foster a culture where risk facilitates growth and innovation. The episode offers a compelling narrative on transforming the apprehension surrounding risk into a strategic advantage, a shift critical in today’s competitive landscapes.
Key Takeaways:
🔸Successful organizations view risk as a resource rather than a liability, embracing it as essential to achieving their goals.
🔸Calculated risks are crucial for fostering high-velocity learning and sparking innovation within organizations.
🔸 Leaders must balance risk-taking with ensuring psychological safety to unlock their team’s full potential.
🔸It is vital for leaders to reframe failure as a part of the learning process and not as a setback.
🔸Understanding the context and relevance of risk is key for leaders aiming to drive organizational growth and stay competitive.
References
De Dreu, C. K., & West, M. A. (2001). "Minority dissent and team innovation." Journal of Applied Psychology, 86(6), 1191-1201.
Edmondson, A. (1999). Psychological Safety and Learning Behavior in Work Teams. Administrative Science Quarterly, 44(2), 350–383.
Edmondson, A. C. (2018). The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning, Innovation, and Growth. John Wiley & Sons.
Tversky, A., & Kahneman, D. (1981). The framing of decisions and the psychology of choice. Science, 211, 453–458.

Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
In this episode of @TheScienceofLeadership podcast, host Tom Collins engages with U.S. Air Force General Ed Rice to explore the leadership principle of focusing on "doing only what only you can do."
The discussion kicks off with General Rice emphasizing the importance of leaders evaluating and empowering their team members by providing responsibility and challenging opportunities for growth. The conversation underscores the significance of leaders dedicating their time to charting the course for the organization rather than being engulfed in tasks that could be delegated.
Diving deeper into leadership dynamics, General Rice shares pivotal anecdotes from his career, providing listeners with real-world insights on when and how to intervene as a leader effectively. The conversation highlights the necessity for leaders to delegate appropriately, ensuring organizational efficiency and empowering subordinates.
General Rice elaborates on understanding the different roles within an organization and maintaining an optimal balance between responsibility, accountability, and authority. His discussion with Tom Collins offers listeners actionable advice on overcoming the pitfalls of micromanagement and avoiding the trap of reverting to familiar tasks rather than leading strategically.
Key Takeaways:
🔸Leaders should focus on tasks that only they can do to effectively guide the organization, setting clear directions and strategies. 🔸Delegating duties to capable team members promotes empowerment and accountability while fostering a healthy organizational culture.
🔸Understanding personal strengths and harnessing the potential of subordinates are crucial for successful leadership.
🔸Time management and prioritizing important tasks over mere busyness can significantly impact leadership effectiveness.
🔸Leaders have a unique role in knowing when to bend rules thoughtfully, demonstrating flexibility and strategic decision-making.
In this Episode:
0:00 | Intro
5:32 | Leadership and Communication During Military Crises
10:10 | Balancing Leadership and Delegation for Effective Team Management
16:34 | Effective Leadership Through Prioritization and Time Management
22:10 | Leadership Decisions in Crisis Management and Delegation
27:41 | Sears' Diversification Mistake and Its Impact on Their Success
33:58 | Aligning Responsibility, Authority, and Accountability in Leadership
39:22 | Leadership Insights: Rule Followers, Risk Takers, and Empowerment
References
Blunden, H. & Steffel, M. (2024). How to Delegate Decision-Making Strategically. Harvard Business Review. www.hbr.org
Mathebula, B. & Barnard, B. (2020). The Factors of Delegation Success: Accountability, Compliance and Work Quality. Expert Journal of Business and Management, 8(1), 76–97.
Mathieu, J. E., Gilson, L. L. & Ruddy, T. M. (2006). Empowerment and Team Effectiveness: An Empirical Test of an Integrated Model. Journal of Applied Psychology, 91(1), 97–108. https://doi.org/10.1037/0021-9010.91.1.97
Schriesheim, C. A., Neider, L. L. & Scandura, T. A. (1998). Delegation and Leader-Member Exchange: Main Effects, Moderators, and Measurement Issues. Academy of Management Journal, 41(3), 298–318. https://doi.org/10.5465/256909
Sostrin, J. (2017). To Be a Great Leader, You Have to Learn How to Delegate Well. Harvard Business Review. www.hbr.org
Zhang, X., Qian, J., Wang, B., Jin, Z., Wang, J. & Wang, Y. (2017). Leaders’ Behaviors Matter: The Role of Delegation in Promoting Employees’ Feedback-Seeking Behavior. Frontiers in Psychology, 08, 920. https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.00920

Tuesday Mar 11, 2025
Tuesday Mar 11, 2025
Welcome to the Science of Leadership, where host Tom Collins delves into the transformative power of positivity and resilience with former marathoner and professional cyclist Leah Thorvilson.
This episode uncovers Leah's incredible journey from an elite marathon career to overcoming debilitating injuries and reinventing herself as a professional cyclist. Through personal anecdotes and professional insights, Leah shares how setbacks can be transformed into setups for success, highlighting the critical role of resilience in leadership and personal growth.
In this riveting episode, Leah provides a behind-the-scenes look at the challenges she faced when an injury ended her running career. Instead of succumbing to disappointment and despair, she pivoted to cycling. Through the power of positivity and grit, Leah won Zwift Academy's worldwide competition to earn a spot on the premier women's professional cycling team, and she did so at the age of 37, a rarity in an age-dominated field. Tom and Leah discuss the concepts of post-traumatic growth and positive psychology, demonstrating how leaders can harness adversity to foster team innovation, trust, and resilience. This discussion underscores the essential mindset and strategies leaders need to cultivate an environment where everyone can thrive.
Key Takeaways:
🔸Resilience and positivity are essential qualities for leaders and individuals facing adversity; they can transform setbacks into opportunities for growth.
🔸Leah's journey from running to professional cycling highlights the power of adaptability and why it's crucial to seek new opportunities.
🔸Embracing challenges with a positive mindset can lead to greater morale, creativity, and performance within teams and organizations.
🔸Leaders who model optimism and gratitude foster psychological safety and enhance team engagement and productivity.
🔸Trust your intuition and remain open to unexpected opportunities that can redefine your personal and professional trajectory.
References
Amabile, T. M., Schatzel, E. A., Moneta, G. B. & Kramer, S. J. (2004). Leader behaviors and the work environment for creativity: Perceived leader support. The Leadership Quarterly, 15(1), 5–32.
Avolio, B. J. & Gardner, W. L. (2005). Authentic leadership development: Getting to the root of positive forms of leadership. The Leadership Quarterly, 16(3), 315–338.
Fredrickson, B, L. (2001). The role of positive emotions in positive psychology. The broaden-and-build theory of positive emotions. The American Psychologist, 56(3), 218-226.
Wang, X.-H. (Frank) & Howell, J. M. (2010). Exploring the Dual-Level Effects of Transformational Leadership on Followers. Journal of Applied Psychology, 95(6), 1134–1144.

Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
Join us on the latest episode of the @TheScienceofLeadership podcast, where host Tom Collins welcomes the esteemed U.S. Coast Guard Admiral (ret.) Thad Allen.
In today’s fast-paced and unpredictable world, crisis management stands as an indispensable skill, especially for leaders steering the helm. Admiral Thad Allen, a revered figure known for his exemplary crisis management during Hurricane Katrina and the Deepwater Horizon oil spill, shared his insights into the anatomy of crisis management, offering an insightful look at how transformational leadership can make or break a response to disaster.
Allen underscores the critical importance of understanding and defining the problem at hand. He notes, "Problem definition, what really needs to be done, and what are the outcomes you're trying to achieve are critically important."
Admiral Allen’s experience reveals that effective crisis management often entails acting swiftly, yet strategically. This is particularly evident when he stated, “You need to assign a professional, the best expert you can, to run and manage the response. And then you need to run the country.” This highlights the necessity for leaders to engage the right expertise to navigate the crisis while maintaining their overarching responsibilities.
By sharing anecdotes from his storied career, he paints a picture of leadership that is pragmatic yet deeply empathetic. This episode also examines the intricacies of communication in crisis management, detailing the necessity of transparency, accountability, and strategic planning. Listeners will come away with actionable insights into adopting a crisis-ready leadership style and the crucial role preparation plays in leading through uncertainty.
Key Takeaways:
🔸Lifelong Learning: Crisis management requires the accumulation of diverse experiences and continuous learning to adapt effectively. Transparency and Accountability: Trust and honest communication with the public are vital during crises.
🔸Preparation and Planning: Engaging in comprehensive planning helps build readiness and resilience, even when the exact nature of a crisis is unknown.
🔸Transformational Leadership: Emotional intelligence and the ability to build cohesive teams are essential for effective crisis response.
🔸Leadership Separation: Leaders must delineate roles, focusing on both operational execution and political leadership, to navigate complex emergencies.
Key References:
Al Thani, F. B. H., & Obeidat, A. M. (2020). The impact of strategic leadership on crisis management. International Journal of Asian Social Science, 10(6), 307–326.
Bowers, M. R., Hall, J. R., & Srinivasan, M. M. (2017). Organizational culture and leadership style: The missing combination for selecting the right leader for effective crisis management. Business Horizons, 60(4), 551–563.
Coombs, W. T. (2014). State of crisis communication: Evidence and the bleeding edge. Research Journal of the Institute for Public Relations, 1(1).
Farazmand, A. (2009). Hurricane Katrina, the crisis of leadership, and chaos management: Time for trying the ‘surprise management theory in action’. Public Organization Review, 9(4), 399-412.
Kapucu, N., & Ustun, Y. (2018). Collaborative crisis management and leadership in the public sector. International Journal of Public Administration, 41(7), 548–561.
Parsons, W. (1996). Crisis management. Career Development International, 1(5), 26–28.
Senge, P. (1990). The Fifth Discipline: The Art and Practice of The Learning Organization. Double Day.
Wisittigars, B., & Siengthai, S. (2019). Crisis leadership competencies: The facility management sector in Thailand. Facilities, 37(13/14), 881–896.

Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
In this episode of @TheScienceofLeadership podcast, host Tom Collins engages with U.S. Army General (ret.) Mike Scaparrotti as they discuss how the fundamentals are the key to exceptional leadership. The conversation delves into the core fundamentals that define exceptional leadership, underscoring the prime importance of character, competence, and caring. Through anecdotal experiences and rich, thought-provoking dialogues, General Scaparrotti elucidates the principles that have guided leaders towards success in both military and civilian domains.
Throughout the episode, the emphasis is on understanding and practicing leadership fundamentals such as character, competence, caring, and communication. General Scaparrotti provides practical illustrations from his tenure, emphasizing the value of maintaining high standards and adhering to principles even under pressure. By focusing on the essential leadership traits and distilling the military's teaching into universally applicable lessons, listeners are provided with a roadmap for cultivating effective leadership qualities in any field. The dialogue also highlights the nuanced differences between successful leaders who emphasize character and those who rely on sheer competence, bringing forward the importance of trust and integrity in leadership roles.
Key Takeaways:
🔸Fundamental Importance: Leaders must consistently practice the fundamentals of leadership, including character, competence, caring, and communication, to foster trust and effectiveness.
🔸Character Trumps Strategy: General Scaparrotti asserts that a leader with strong character is preferable to one with just tactical proficiency, as character lays the foundation for trustworthy leadership.
🔸Intentional Development* Leaders are encouraged to be intentional in their personal growth and reflective in their practices to continuously improve.
🔸Lessons from the Battlefield: Practical stories from both battlefield and everyday situations illustrate how upholding fundamentals can vastly improve outcomes.
🔸Adaptation to Change: Staying current and embracing emerging technologies is pivotal for leaders to maintain relevance in rapidly evolving domains.
Key words in this episode include leadership, fundamentals, character, competence, communication, leadership fundamentals, military leadership, leadership principles, effective leadership, leadership development, importance of leadership fundamentals, how to practice leadership fundamentals, examples of leadership failures, impact of character in leadership, and role of communication in leadership.
References
Wooden, J., & Jamison, S. (2005). Wooden on Leadership. McGraw-Hill.
Character
Bass, B. M., & Steidlmeier, P. (1999). Ethics, character, and authentic transformational leadership behavior. Leadership Quarterly, 10(2), 181-217.
Gini, A. (2004). Ethics and Leadership. Business and Society Review, 109(3), 325-342.
Trevino, L. K., Hartman, L. P., & Brown, M. (2000). Moral Person and Moral Manager: How Executives Develop a Reputation for Ethical Leadership. California Management Review, 42(4), 128-142.
Peterson, C., & Seligman, M. E. P. (2004). Character Strengths and Virtues: A Handbook and Classification. Oxford University Press.
Competence
Mumford, M. D., Zaccaro, S. J., Harding, F. D., Jacobs, T. O., & Fleishman, E. A. (2000). Leadership skills for a changing world: Solving complex social problems. The Leadership Quarterly, 11(1), 11-35.
Avolio, B. J., Gardner, W. L., Walumbwa, F. O., Luthans, F., & May, D. R. (2004). Unlocking the mask: A look at the process by which authentic leaders impact follower attitudes and behaviors. The Leadership Quarterly, 15(6), 801-823.
Caring
Mehra, V., & Srivastava, S. (2024). The role of empathy in leadership on employee satisfaction and organizational performance: A qualitative analysis. Economic Sciences, 20(2), 107-115.
Raina, R. (2022). Moving Crisis to Opportunities: A corporate perspective on the impact of compassionate empathic behaviour on the well-being of employees. International Journal of Global Business and Competitiveness, 17(2), p. 239–255.
Rahman, W. A., & Castelli, P. A. (2013). The impact of empathy on leadership effectiveness among business leaders in the United States and Malaysia. International Journal of Economics Business and Management Studies, 2(3), 83–97.
Communication
Clampitt, P. G. & Downs, C. W. (1993). Employee Perceptions of the Relationship Between Communication and Productivity: A Field Study. Journal of Business Communication, 30(1), 5–28.
Fairhurst, G. T. & Connaughton, S. L. (2014). Leadership: A communicative perspective. Leadership, 10(1), 7–35.
Men, L. R. (2014). Strategic Internal Communication: Transformational Leadership, Communication Channels, and Employee Satisfaction. Management Communication Quarterly, 28(2), 264–284.

Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
As leaders, mastering your current battlespace provides credibility and brings the team along. Dive into our latest discussion with General Gene Renuart for impactful insights. In this engaging episode of the @TheScienceofLeadership podcast, host Tom Collins is joined by an esteemed guest, General Gene Renuart, who explores the paramount importance of understanding and mastering the "battlespace" as a leader.
General Renuart shares his wealth of experiences from various high-stakes military operations and offers practical lessons for leaders operating in both military and corporate environments. His insights provide a compelling narrative that intertwines strategic military concepts with leadership practices applicable across different sectors.
Throughout the discussion, General Renuart emphasizes the significance of becoming an expert in your current role to lead effectively, referencing the necessity of battlespace knowledge in Afghanistan and how a lack of understanding impacted operations. Key themes include the value of empathy, technical skills, and credibility in leadership. These are underscored by anecdotes from Renuart's career, illustrating the power of preparedness and adaptability. The episode offers listeners actionable strategies to better navigate complexities in leadership roles, making it a crucial listen for those striving to elevate their leadership capabilities.
Keywords in this episode include leadership, battlespace, credibility, expertise, psychology, leadership principles, military leadership, leadership skills, organizational culture, leadership challenges, importance of mastering battlespace, leadership in complex environments, psychological aspects of leadership, learning from military leadership, and understanding organizational dynamics.
Key Takeaways:
🔸Understanding and mastering the battle space is critical for leadership effectiveness and success.
🔸Learning from history and seeking expertise in new environments helps prevent past errors from repeating.
🔸Leaders must focus on their current role, ensuring mastery of relevant skills to enhance credibility and foster team commitment.
🔸Maintaining empathy, taking less desirable tasks, and technical proficiency are essential qualities for inspiring teams.
🔸Asking the "what if" questions is vital to prepare for uncertainties and mitigate risks.
CHAPTERS
0:00 | Intro
6:30 | Leadership, Psychology, and Battle Space Expertise in Military Success
15:32 | Challenges of Western Intervention in Afghanistan Post-1989
29:49 | The Consequences of Misjudging Professional Relationships
36:25 | Becoming an Expert in Your Leadership Battle Space
45:52 | Leadership Challenges in Business and Academia
53:57 | The Importance of Asking What If Questions in Decision Making
1:00:27 | Mastering Leadership Through Credibility, Empathy, and Skill Development
References
• Endsley, M. R. (1995). Toward Situation Awareness in Dynamic Systems. Human Factors, 37(1), 32-64.
• Kahneman, D., & Klein, G. (2009). Conditions for intuitive expertise: A failure to disagree. American Psychologist, 64(6), 515–526.
• Klein, G. (1999). Sources of Power: How People Make Decisions. Cambridge: MIT Press
• Lord, R. G., & Hall, R. J. (2005). Identity, deep structure, and the development of leadership skill. The Leadership Quarterly, 16(4), 591-615.
• Mumford, M. D., Zaccaro, S. J., Harding, F. D., Jacobs, T. O., & Fleishman, E. A. (2000). Leadership skills for a changing world: Solving complex social problems. The Leadership Quarterly, 11(1), 11-35.

Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
In this riveting episode of The Science of Leadership to Leadership podcast, hosted by Tom Collins, listeners are invited to explore the intricate art of communication with celebrated expert, Dr. Maria Keckler.
Dr. Keckler, known for her innovative approach to leadership as a bridge builder, shares her insightful perspectives on the importance of communication in leadership, especially in a world characterized by increasing complexity and division. With a strong focus on the human elements of empathy and connection, Dr. Keckler delivers transformative ideas that are essential for today’s leaders
Throughout the discussion, Dr. Keckler emphasizes the importance of leaders embracing their role as connectors, challenging traditional notions of leadership. She advocates for the adoption of a mindset that prioritizes empathy, trust-building, and the power of storytelling. The conversation delves into the differences between ethical, emotional, and logical appeals, highlighting their roles in effective leadership communication. The episode is a treasure trove of actionable insights and thought-provoking reflections, designed to equip listeners with the tools to excel as compassionate leaders in their communities.
Keywords in this episode include leadership, communication, bridge building, trust, empathy, storytelling, connection, positive intent, and neuroscience.
Key Takeaways:
🔸Leadership in today's world requires embracing communication strategies that connect on ethical, emotional, and logical levels.
🔸Building bridges in leadership equates to crafting connections that foster trust, understanding, and collaboration among teams.
🔸Storytelling is a powerful tool in leadership that can effectively convey empathy and build personal connections.
🔸Listening with curiosity and openness can significantly enhance the quality of leadership by fostering a respectful and inclusive environment.
🔸Embracing one's mistakes and seeking continuous feedback can transform leadership potential and reinforce credibility.
Resources:
Dr. Keckler’s website: DrMariaKeckler.com
Dr. Keckler’s newsletter and archive: JustOnePivot.com
Background on Dr. Keckler’s research: EmpathyRx.sdsu.edu.
References:
Brown, B. (2018). Dare to Lead: Brave Work. Tough Conversations: Whole Heart. Random House.
Keckler, M. (2016). Bridge Builders: How Superb Communicators Get What They Want in Business and in Life. Morgan James Publishing.
Nowak, A. (2023). Purposeful Empathy: Tapping Our Hidden Superpower for Personal, Organizational, and Social Change. Broadleaf Books.

Tuesday Jan 28, 2025
Tuesday Jan 28, 2025
Join us in another insightful episode of The Science of Leadership, as host Tom Collins and General J.D. Thurman delve into the role that our instincts play in successfully navigating complex decisions and situations. General Thurman served as an Army helicopter pilot and went on to command soldiers in the Gulf War and Iraq War, ultimately serving simultaneously as the Commander of United Nations Command, Republic of Korea-U.S. Combined Forces Command, and the United States Forces Korea.
This engaging conversation centers around the pivotal role of intuition in leadership, interwoven with personal experiences and scientific exploration. General Thurman candidly shares a significant lesson learned from a tragic incident during his military career, advocating the importance of trusting one's instincts when leading under pressure.
Navigating the challenging terrain of high-stakes leadership, General Thurman underscores the value of intuition in decision-making, especially when full information is elusive. Beyond anecdotal experiences, the episode weaves in scientific insights, demonstrating how intuition, backed by experience, can enhance leadership effectiveness.
As Dr. Collins and General Thurman reflect on their own crossroads shaped by gut decisions, this episode becomes a compelling narrative on balancing intuition with data, and the immense impact of these decisions in both military and everyday leadership contexts.
Keywords in this episode include leadership, intuition, decision making, instincts, experience, leadership intuition, trust instincts, leadership science, military leadership, leadership lessons, how to trust your instincts, importance of gut feeling in leadership, developing leadership intuition skills, balancing data and intuition in decision-making, and improving decision-making through experience
Key Takeaways:
- Trusting intuition can play a crucial role in decision-making, especially under conditions of uncertainty or risk, as learned from General Thurman's military experiences.
- Leadership, at its core, involves personal growth through continuous learning, self-awareness, and reflection—qualities highlighted by the General in his reflections on effective decision-making.
- Intuition can enhance rapid decision-making, confidence, and adaptability when paired with experience and expertise.
- Communication and trust within an organization are essential for successful leadership and can be fostered by sharing decision-making processes transparently with team members.
- The importance of intuition in leadership is supported by scientific research pointing to its role in fostering trust, collaboration, and effective decision-making under uncertainty.
Key References:
Cohn, J., Squire, P., Estabrooke, I., O’Neill, E. (2013). Enhancing Intuitive Decision Making through Implicit Learning. In: Schmorrow, D.D., Fidopiastis, C.M. (eds) Foundations of Augmented Cognition. AC 2013. Lecture Notes in Computer Science(), vol 8027. Springer, Berlin, Heidelberg.
Critcher, C. R., Y. Inbar, and D. A. Pizarro, 2013, How Quick Decisions Illuminate Moral Character. Social Psychological and Personality Science, 4(3), 308–315. doi:10.1177/1948550612457688.
Huang, L., 2018, The Role of Investor Gut Feel in Managing Complexity and Extreme Risk. Academy of Management Journal, 61(5), 1821–1847. doi:10.5465/amj.2016.1009.
Huang, L., and J. L. Pearce, 2015, Managing the Unknowable. Administrative Science Quarterly, 60(4), 634–670. doi:10.1177/0001839215597270.
Maglio, S. J., and T. Reich, 2019, Feeling Certain: Gut Choice, the True Self, and Attitude Certainty. Emotion, 19(50). 876–888, doi:10.1037/emo0000490.
Merritt, A. C., and B. Monin, 2011, The Trouble with Thinking: People Want to Have Quick Reactions to Personal Taboos. Emotion Review, 3(3), 318–319. doi:10.1177/1754073911402386.
Mikels, J. A., S. J. Maglio, A. E. Reed, and L. J. Kaplowitz, 2011, Should I Go With My Gut? Investigating the Benefits of Emotion-Focused Decision Making. Emotion, 11(4), 743–753. doi:10.1037/a0023986.
Morewedge, C. K., C. E. Giblin, and M. I. Norton, 2014, The (Perceived) Meaning of Spontaneous Thoughts: Journal of Experimental Psychology: General, v. 143, no. 4, p. 1742–1754, doi:10.1037/a0036775.
Oktar, K., and T. Lombrozo, 2022, Deciding to be authentic: Intuition is favored over deliberation when authenticity matters: Cognition, v. 223, p. 105021, doi:10.1016/j.cognition.2022.105021.
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The Science of Leadership
The Science of Leadership is the podcast for listeners who want to build their leadership capabilities, providing valuable knowledge, insightful perspectives, and inspiring stories from expert leaders across various fields. The episodes range from one-on-one interviews with experts to discussions between the host and co-host. All episodes are supported by the latest scientific research in leadership, psychology, and other pertinent fields. Whether you’re an aspiring business leader, a healthcare professional, a community leader, or someone passionate about personal growth, our podcast is designed to equip you with the skills and wisdom needed to lead with confidence and impact. Join us on this journey to become a better leader and make a difference in your world!